Actually, The Red Savina is not a hybrid. It came from a sport that Frank Garcia found growing in his Orange Habanero fields. There is a great story about it in "The Habanero Cookbook" by DeWitt and Gerlach. The reason Frank patented Red Savina is because it's not a hybrid and could be easily reproduced by any seed grower. I just don't think he grew it through enough generations to eliminate it's quirks. The same appears to be true for Francisca. If I remember correctly, Jim Campbell said that Red Savina is much more stable than it was when he first began growing it in Indiana several years ago. Dave Anderson TLCC http://www.tough-love.com > I'm no expert on Red Savinas. They are a hybrid, but I think work is > being done to stabilise the hybrid so it breeds true to type. > > OP stands for open pollinated. They will breed true to type. When two > types of pepper are cross-pollinated the next generation will be F1 > hybrids, with genetic features of both parents. Any seeds saved from > this, whether cross-pollinated or not will be the F2 generation and will > produce plants of greater variation than the F1 generation. Selection of > which plants you save seeds from for each subsequent generation can > result in a stable hybrid, and a new stable cultivar, with time. >