I've subscribed to chile-heads digest since the start of the second volume, about 7 years, and yesterday I was dismayed at the attack on Rael. Are you attackers who call him a Luddite all genetic manipulators then? Many scientists are opposed to GM for various good reasons, and they're far from Luddites. The only people who defend that practice are those who are ignorant of it, think every "new" thing is desirable, or are themselves manipulators. There used to be Spanish speaking subscribers, too, who would laugh their asses off at the "Puta chile" that recently popped up. There was utter silence. Have the good old boys and girls all left the list? Margaret L