Well, not one of you lovely people shared the jokes, so on to the new bed without further delay. I used about half inch of newspaper. There were no untoward weed problems except that resulting from the compost itself which were easily done in. But I made the mistake of prematuely planting in it - for lack of another place - and that's where the problems with depth arose because while the plants survived, they needed soil as soon as they emerged and gardening in cold, damp spring weather wasn't fun but necessary if the plants were to survive. I planted many bulbs which made it, but they now need another six inches of compost/soil if they are going to make it this winter. The area isn't large, about 11 x 4 ft, and it took 10 midsize wheelbarrows full to inadequately cover it; 20 would have been more like it. That's going to happen sometime soon. Unfortunately, the compost pile is a long way from this bed. If you aren't going to plant in it immediately, the lesser amount does the job. Some grass and ivy would work its way through but should be fairly easy to remove in spring. As for the rest of my garden, it has been a glorious season. The stars are heleniums that I planted in spring, now 3-4' tall and brilliant yellow, red and blends of both. They share the autumn spotlight with seed grown gloriosa daisies which bloom later than those that survive the winter. There is also rudbeckia, purple asters in short medium and tall varieties, the latter wild New England ones that surround us amidst a sea of goldenrod and wild blackeyed susan, dahlias and spring planted chrysanthemums, three colors of buddleia (deep purple, white and lilac) pink anemones and linum perenne, a favorite of mine which has bloomed since May, albeit with less flourish than in spring. There is nearly as much color now as there was in June and July. One iris rebloomed in late August/Sept., Champagne Elegance. I have another which bloomed nearly all of October last year, Blessed Again. We now have 40 other rebloomers which won't do anything until next year. We hope to specialize in rebloomers which will actually do so reliably in zones 4 & 5. Total irises planted, about 600, 200 plus named varieties labelled and mapped!! Hope somebody wants some next year. Cheryl Schaefer, Schaefer Yarns Beautiful hand painted fibers schaefer@epix.net Zone 5 in the fabulous Finger Lakes of NY