Re: [gardeners]Cabbage Loopers [was: Seeds]

George Shirley (
Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:48:26

At 07:04 AM 1/17/98 -0700, you wrote:
>>>Ahem.  Yeller dogs are not a prerequisite...but it's nigh impossible to be
>>>a Democrat in Idaho.  It's a one-party state.  I know the woman who is the
>>>aide to the Senate Democrats -- all three of them, one retiring after this
>>>George, I have your seeds packed up and as soon as I turn off ye olde
>>>computer, I'll go to the p.o. and mail them.  Margaret
>>Back in the early Sixties there were only two registered Republicans in my
>>home county in Texas. Nearly tore my Daddy's heart out that they were Anne
>>and I. Dad was a "machine" Democrat, always voted the straight democratic
>>ticket. Only jumped party lines twice in his life - both times Hubert
>>Humphrey ran. Dad always referred to him as "that SOB." Incidentally, my
>>dad's brother was the Demo Party chairman in that county for about 30 years.
>>Your seeds went off a few days ago, regular mail. Same thing with Kay's
>>neckties. Just got an emessage from Richter's that they were mailing my
>>seeds from there. Lick, slurp, dig out the seedling pots.
>>George, waiting for the seed bounty to roll in from the catalogs. After
>>today I gotta plant something.
>In the 19th century, following a terrible blizzard, one Alferd (sic) E.
>Packer was put on trial for cannibalism, and convicted.  The judge
>reportedly said, "Damn your hide!  There were only five Democrats in
>Hinsdale county, and you've et three of them."  Cut to 1960s, when the
>students at the University of Colorado, irked at the food served in the
>Student Union cafeteria, formally named the cafeteria the Alferd E. Packer
>Memorial Grill. 
>The food wasn't good, but I've never seen cafeteria food that was.  But
>there was never a peep of complaint from the managers and servers when
>desperately poor students came in and picked up their free crackers and
>free hot water (you paid for tea bags), then proceeded to use free catsup
>in the hot water to make soup.  Thanks to that rather generous spirit, I
>never complained about the food.  Margaret
I like that cafeteria name!!! In the early Seventies when I finally decided
to go to college we had lots of students who had to scrap and fight for
funds to go to school. Generally parents either couldn't afford to pay or
wouldn't and the kids were working 2 and 3 jobs for minimum wage and trying
to make it on their own. I was going on the GI bill and had a very good
paying job (I was 31 years old when I started back)so tryed to help when I
could. Myself and several other older veterans started a kind of soup
kitchen in an old restaurant that had been closed for several years. You
were hungry you came in and helped cook or serve and got to eat what you
wanted, within reason. Nothing fancy, soups, stews, gumbos, occasionally
hamburgers or hotdogs. Always had something for breakfast before classes
started and stayed open after the last class of the day so they could get
another bite to eat. We asked no questions and I don't think we were ever
ripped off by an affluent student. Many local people either gave cash
donations or food. Two elderly gardeners, man and wife in their seventies,
gave us nearly all the output of their home garden. Finally, after two
years, a local cafe bitched and the authorities shut us down, albeit
apologetically. Pissed me off so bad we reopened as an "advisory council"
and taught the kids how to get food stamps and welfare, all legit of
course. If those kids had had the money to eat in the local cafe they would
have. Often wondered if any of those kids ever made it big, some of them
were absolutely brilliant, just poor.

George, who has never been poor but often has no money. If you know the
difference you can understand.