Liz: biggest problem we have is called SPACE. We already have a few old roses and do enjoy them. >If you'd like a look at some old garden roses check out this webpage. >It's what got me started on my latest obsession. >http://www.halcyon.com/cirsium/rosegal Will check out the web page. Afraid my book marks are getting a bit lengthy! Thanks Barb Rothenberger Columbia, Mo. See our pictures of the Philadelphia flower show http://www.geocities.com/PicketFence/3257/