Hello Harvey and Bill -- Glad you joined in the garden photo discusion.. I have an observation: all the difficult pictures in the garden seem to be taken in April. All the successful pictures are taken in August. The sun is in a different part of the sky for these events. Do you think that makes a striking difference in quality of illumination? Penny, zone 6, NY _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]