On Thu, 2 Jul 1998 asidv@fbg.net wrote: > John Harman's worrying about feminism seems odd in an Australian, for > in visiting Australia I was charmed by the comfortable > attitude shown between men and women. I liked their use of the term > "Mate" as an endearment; they seemed to have fun together > and to respect the each other's worth. Thats generally true. It was mainly in the work place that feminism caused a lot of trouble and tension. Luckily these days it has mostly dissipated. I certainly treat women differently at work, than I do socially. It's just one of the hangovers of living through that era. "Mate" is a term used by ozzie men to address each other. You sometimes hear a woman call a man mate, but not often. > And please tell me, why wouldn't you step aside to let a woman > into an elevator first? What if she got there first? Surely you > don't barge ahead of those who preceeded you in space and time; that > would be tantamount to saying, "I rank you" and between strangers, > good manners says there is no rank. We can only prove "what" we are > by our words and our actions and if we are truly "strangers" that has > not yet been discovered. Pat > No I don't barge in front of people, but I don't stand back to allow a woman to proceed me like I would have done years ago either. It is considered 'patronizing' don't you know. :) John >