Bahzit, twtoe's (or whatever the case may be) writes: >at the moment I appear to be growing hollyhocks, mulberry trees, tea >roses, violets, wild grapes, soybeans, sunchokes, wild carrot, and sage. >oh and the catnip decided to come up this year. My, what a diverse collection of plant material bahzit. Did you mention where you garden? One assumes a temperate zone , but one can never tell when the correspondent fails to reveal his identity and physical location. Or perhaps you have a virtual garden that's independent of space, time, and the vagaries of Mother Nature. Do tell, I know that I, for one, am all ears. Catharine/Atlanta, USDA zone 7b P.S. - By the way, which species of the Nepeta genus are you referencing? Why ever would it not come up? All the members of the genus with which I am familiar are reliably hardy. But then I am no expert. I will look forward to hearing more.