In a message dated 8/25/98 10:36:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time, matttrahan@ecsu.campus.mci.net writes: > Hi Taree, > Does it appear mostly in summer, when things are water stressed? Is the > ground a heavy clay? I live in Berkeley,CA.....its nearly all Heavy Clay. I know its roots because the plastic ring around them is now lifted as well. Also we had 6 yrs of draught which ended 4 yrs ago but the roots had come to the surface by then . Plants here have never been the same. taree