Harry wrote: > Hi Liz/Catharine, > > If either of you would like to share the problem with me, I'd like > to know. Sorry to be so slow in reading mail...I'm still awaiting my new system (Intel's new 450 chip is in shorter supply than anticipated) and the old system is coughing and sputtering a lot. Anyhow, SP&H has been a huge disappoint to me. In years past (3-4) I bought from them with much satisfaction, although I never received even 50% of what I would order. This year, I needed to buy 5-6 thousand dollars worth of uncommon herbs for a fund raiser at the Atlanta Botanical Gardens. I particularly wanted to buy from SP&H, since the sale was focused on Southern adapted and native plants. To make a very long story short (and Liz' recap is 100% accurate), SP&H could not have made a bigger mess of things. The owner, Barbara Bridges seriously let us down and gave every impression that she didn't give a darn. Bad business in my opinion. I am very sour on the place...I had driven 12 hours to pick up an ordered that had been *confirmed* in writing for weeks and weeks. The plants were not there...and no apology or explanation was offered. The nursery itself was in shambles....I have never seen anything as bad (and I have been to many, many commercial growers operations). The read sadness is that there are some incredible specimans...wonderful plants...all dying for lack of weeding and the simplest of housekeeping efforts (like picking up household garbage that's strewn all over the yard). Everything is field grown; there is only one hoophouse. The conditions in the greenhouse were not good. The staff was overworked and unhappy. They were consistently belittled and humiliated by the owner while I was on site. I was embarassed for them. Barbara is from Illinois; she married a southern "boy" who seems to have lost interest/enthusiasm for their business. I'm sure she is very much overworked (she has small children). Still, that is no excuse for bad manners, bad business, and keeping an office/house that I fear any health department would condemn in 5 minutes flat. One plus: the plants that I was able to purchase were in good shape...unfortunately, they weren't the plants I'd ordered or needed! When you've spent 3 months writing and producing a detailed catalog/growing guide, you aren't too thrilled when you suddenly find you don't have the plants you ordered/expected! Catharine Atlanta, zone 7b