Hi, Catharine. I think I remember you from GardensL. Thanks for the welcome. I've heard about the dear up there eating everything alive. I probably will put in 8-10' deer fencing. My property, however, is in Kendall County, but I don't think that's going to make much difference. > You also might want to invest in a German pick. You will be dealing with an > average of 2" of topsoil on top of pure limestone or caleche. Digging holes > for planting is not a lot of fun. Plan on moving a lot of rock! From what I can tell, I may be lucky to have 2" of topsoil. There is literally almost no soil on the edge of the bluff and a bit the farther back from it you go. I sort of figured I'd be creating a lot of raised beds. The irony is that my situation here in Seattle is a bit similar. Instead of solid rock, I like to joke that the glacier receded right on my property, leaving tons of roundish rock ranging in size from one's thumb up to 10-12 lb. boulders. I have not put in a flower bed or veggie garden without either sifting rock or building up. I always swore that I would never buy another piece of property without first taking a shovel out into the middle and digging a hole. But alas, I fell in love with the piece in Texas. At least I've had a lot of experience with moving rock. Marge Talt from GardensL once told me that I hadn't really dealt with a rock or rocks until I'd moved the same one(s) at least three times. She's absolutely right. Vicki