George Shirley <gardeners@globalgarden.com> wrote: > As long as you aren't trying to sell the stuff As a point of fact, he is selling the stuff. Just to save everyone time and hype, go check out the website. It's simple to find. Take his email address, thomas@tandjenterprises.com, replace the thomas@ with http://www. so that you get: http://www.tandjenterprises.com At least the fellow who is selling the same stuff on rec.gardens is open and straightforward about the fact that he's pimping his own product. After you read how fabulous these products are, talk to a botanist. I did. Liz