Pat, Martha et al, I priced some Mexican lava rocks at the local nursery today. These were grey, oval, and about 2 inches at their longest. Cost: $56 per 80 lb bag. Maybe there's a business opportunity here...? Penny, NY zone 6 where it's never been heard of before: Dec 5th with roses, perennial asters, some mums, pelargoniums all in bloom, and ripe raspberries still there for the picking! Must be La Nina..... ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]