We definitely ain't testing soil temps the pagan way. <VBG> George Matt Trahan wrote: > So what are you doing for the winter solstice? It's sunrise 12.20.98 > > You might enjoy these websites > > http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~aburnham/ring/ > > Have fun > > Matt Trahan <matttrahan@ecsu.campus.mci.net> or <garden@juno.com> > USDA zone 8, AHS heat zone 7, Sunset zone 31, northeastern N.C.