Why aren't you George? It's definately warm enough to test them in that very interesting way here.... Matter of fact, Jimbo came by to test them with Cousin Ella Mae yesterday... Bambi >We definitely ain't testing soil temps the pagan way. <VBG> > >George > >Matt Trahan wrote: > >> So what are you doing for the winter solstice? It's sunrise 12.20.98 >> >> You might enjoy these websites >> >> http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~aburnham/ring/ >> >> Have fun >> >> Matt Trahan <matttrahan@ecsu.campus.mci.net> or <garden@juno.com> >> USDA zone 8, AHS heat zone 7, Sunset zone 31, northeastern N.C. > >