For those who aren't into "poop" my dad had a hot bed with an underground wood stove made by cutting the ends out of two (or more it has been too long to remember) 55 gal barrels and I assume welding them end to end with a door on one end and a stove pipe on the other. This was buried underneath the hot bed with the door end in a pit that was dug out so he could load the wood. The stove pipe was at the opposite end of the bed. This was covered with a two by four frame covered with plastic. This was at the place we lived before I started school so has been a long, looong time ago and I don't remember much except how toasty it was in there when there was snow and ice everywhere. The perfect place to play in the dirt if you didn't get caught :-)) Martha M Brown NW Oklahoma, USA USDA Zone 6b, Sunset Zone 35 ---------- : From: Kay Lancaster <kay@fern.com> : To: gardeners@globalgarden.com : Subject: Re: [gardeners] Seed Starting Box : Date: Thursday, January 07, 1999 7:47 PM : : On Thu, 7 Jan 1999 drusus@golden.net wrote: : : > Kay must know a lot about poop. How much does it take for a hotframe? : : You mean you saw my old job description from the parasitology lab? : "Official sh** stirrer" ;-) : : About 6-8" of nice fresh horse or cow manure and straw is what my : mother's family always used in Iowa... less manure and more straw : if you were dealing with chickens instead of horses and cows. : : Kay Lancaster kay@fern.com : just west of Portland, OR USDA zone 8 (polarfleece) : : ANNOUNCING: Cyndi Johnson's catalog of gardening catalogs, 17th ed. : For info on obtaining any or all parts (free!) drop a note to : gardeninfo@fern.com : :