Kay, how tall does Harry Lauder's 'walkingstick' get..? And what do they call the dogwood that has red branches in wintertime? How tall will that get? My daughter's flowering quince in zone 5 never gets taller than 3+ ft. However, during the unexpected extra long and warm spell last late fall, it started flowering again, out of season. She cut some branches to bring indoors, and had a wonderful bonus for a few weeks! My flowering quince sat still for 3 years, producing only one blossom. I finally gave it away. Should I have been more patient? Two houses around here have a totally different redbud from mine. My redbud is a tall and branching tree, with a huge canopy and heart- shaped leaves. It is a marvelous shape, but the blossoms are an insipid pale pink-purple, before the leaves arrive. The tree also has one dreadful attribute: it is subject to high wind fracture (like a Bradford pear). One day the entire front spreading branch had ripped downwards, and we freaked. However, the arborist said we should saw it off, and in this case, new branch or branches would generate from the trunk. Guess what..? They did, starting within a year... The neighbors' redbuds are really bushes, not trees. They stand about 9-10 ft tall, are compact, about 5-6 ft wide, and covered in spring with heavenly purple-magenta blossoms, before the leaves arrive. In summer, they are just green bushes, no special attributes. Do you know the different names for these redbuds...? Penny, NY zone 6 ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]