> "world's most horrendously ugly" is not exactly high praise! > Maybe we ought to rethink this choice. > > David That's why I said I'd post a photo, David. I know people who drool over this thing. "ugly" is such a personal thing. I don't know why I don't like this tree. I like some of the weepers, though not all. I *love* blues in conifers and just about everything else. I like most cedars. For some reason unknown to me (and it seems to be peculiar to me) it falls right in there with poodle trees. I only offered up the "ugly to me" as a reason for why I'd be willing to part with it for little when so many are so willing to pay so much. jaime jknoble@warwick.net NW NJ zone 6/5 "By doing just a little every day, I can gradually let the task completely overwhelm me." Ashleigh Brilliant