Terry, we're in zone 6 and those of our neighbors who chose to put in zoysia have always regretted it. Their lawns look like naked hay fields for all the cold weather. It's kind of like a burned out yard! In zone 4, it would stretch the bad season by perhaps two months..... Perhaps there are ground covers or ivy which would be hardy, and at least would look green. Penny. NY ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]