In a message dated 4/21/99 1:47:27 PM, jbmerten@swbell.net writes: << I'm searching ditches and old farmsteads for native nut and fruit trees. I get all excited when I find Hickory or native Pecans on our place too. I am getting rid of a jillion native grape vines 'cause they are all males. I'm going to replace them with female vines as soon as possible. Native grapes vines are >> First Allen how do you tell if it is a male. And second are you saving the vines to make wreaths with? I'll take one if you are.<grin> Kris P Z 5 IL where it's just about ready to rain again