If the pipe is metal. Would a metal detector help narrow the search down? bsk@brightok.net zone 7a aka " Ranchmama " ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: penny x stamm <pennyx1@Juno.com> > We expect to start digging down to search for a certain > pipe just as soon as I am willing to tear out my large annual > flower bed. Jim says he'll start with a 3x3x3.5 ft hole, > and if we don't find the pipe, he'll continue. > Penny, NY zone 6, getting cooler.....