. No, BSK, the pipe is standard "clay drainage pipe". When there is heavy rain, it backs up and fills the cellar drain well, then floods over an 8" sill right into the workshop. Ugghh... This has only been happening for the past two years, since we sealed off one of the pipes buried under the big back lawn because our neighbor was screaming about our water going in to his basement. No question but that we must undo this... The civil law says that no one may prevent water from traveling down from a higher elevation onto one's property. Measures have to be taken to make it workable, however. We may have to dig a trench the whole 126 ft across the back of the property, to spread out the water as it reaches there in a storm. And because of the fine plantings 3 ft in from that stone wall, it would have to be dug by hand. Not a jolly thought. Penny, NY zone 6 . . ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.