There are a few things I have done for floppy sedum (Autumn Joy, Brilliant etc.) I cut or pinch them back like I do mums making a smaller mound which is covered in smaller blooms. I stake them like I do Peonies. The third option I have found is to move them to a spot they don't get as much water so don't grow as large and top heavy. Martha M Brown NW Oklahoma, USA USDA Zone 6b, Sunset Zone 35 -----Original Message----- From: Pauline & Gary <gnp@wilmington.net> To: gardeners@globalgarden.com <gardeners@globalgarden.com> Date: Saturday, October 02, 1999 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [gardeners] Iris Maintenance Thanks to all for responses on Iris Maintenance. I don't seem to have any problems with diseases, etc. the breezes are significant throughout the garden. The only rot problem I have encountered is in the stems of my Autumn Joy sedum. I have these in same bed as rest of my perrenials and they got sprinkled a lot as I was trying to counter effects of the "Before Floyd" drought. Too much water on the sedums I think, although my other specie (can't remember the name, but lighter in color and much taller) didn't suffer same plight. By the way, do all sedums flop over? These tall ones all flop over leaving a very unsightly center, much like spokes on a wagon wheel. The hurricane didn't help this situation any. Thanks again to all of you. Pauline Wilmington, NC gnp@wilmington.net -----Original Message----- From: Michael & Bambi Cantrell <cantrell@onslowonline.net> To: gardeners@globalgarden.com <gardeners@globalgarden.com> Date: Saturday, October 02, 1999 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [gardeners] Iris Maintenance Hi Pauline, I little bit doubt that my way is the best way, but I often don't cut my iris's back, unless they really begin to look ratty. I hesitate to say this, but I haven't had any disease problems with them, and they rebloom every year. I'd at least wait until the foliage gets significantly yellowed before cutting them back. Good luck. :-) Bambi Coastal Carolina Can anyone tell me if I should be cutting the foliage on my Iris's now? I did read that you do this when you divide them but since mine are in only one season, I am not sure whether I should leave the foliage long for winter (Zone 8). Pauline & Gary Wilmington, NC gnp@wilmington.net