>> >Good idea. The corn only prevents germination of seeds, so it wouldn't >prevent the emergence of perennial weeds or those that travel by rhizome. >Grasses are a pain in the bonky in my iris bed. Corn gluten meal, as I >understand it, actually permits seeds to germinate, but prevents them from >setting secondary roots, so the seedling dies. I think you're in a rural >area, Martha, you ought to be able to get it from a feed store. Margaret L > Grasses are a big problem for me also. I use Ortho Grass-B-Gon (even though I hate using chemicals) on Bermuda grass (worse than a pain in the bonky) because I haven't found anything else that will keep me ahead of it. If I ever get it all out of my yard I will never have it again. My second biggest pains are crabgrass and winter grass which is what I am wondering about using the corn gluten on. I usually have a lot of annuals self sow so haven't tried it, but this summer the crabgrass was so bad I couldn't keep it out of the beds. I can start the annuals in pots and then set them out. Do you have any idea how long the corn gluten is effective? Since crabgrass keeps coming up all summer I will probably need to reapply won't I? Martha M Brown NW Oklahoma, USA USDA Zone 6b, Sunset Zone 35