Please reread our charter to see what is appropriate to post and what isn't. All of us have our prejudices but the rule of thumb to follow on this list is simple. You can think whatever you want to but please don't post offensive posts. As far as replying to offensive posts, one reply is generally enough to get my attention as list owner and I will speak to the offenders off list to cut down the bandwidth scatter. Just remember, if you think your post may be offensive someone is sure to feel that way and will respond angrily. Let's try to be gentlefolk and talk about gardening and the good things happening in our lives. Thank you. George Shirley listowner - Gardeners