Re: [gardeners] Mary-Anne

penny x stamm (gardeners@globalgarden.com)
Thu, 4 May 2000 01:00:39 -0400

<< >Do you or anyone else know the name and a source for a beautiful
brown
 >rose?  We saw it at the SF Garden Show 2 or 3 years ago.  It is really
 >brownish rust and cream under the leaf.  I think it was a French name,
 >but not sure.  Hubby would love to locate one!  We have 70 roses at the
 >present time.  He never enjoyed gardening for many years, now the past
 >few years he is really into his roses and orchids.

All quotes from the experts:

Leonidas, if a florist rose?  Michael of Michael's Roses said that his 
whole September 99 crop of Leonidas failed in the fields; it may not
be a California rose at all....Petrose gave it the lowest ranking ever
 in his Pasadena garden.  But when it is right ------it is perfect! 

JD (Calif)
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Best guess would  be Leonidas a florist rose.  We have it and out doors 
don't get the same brown the green houses get. It is a mildew magnet 
as well.  I sure don't recommend it

Bill (Calif) 
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 Hi, Penny:       I say Leonidas too.  Bill ------it doesn't grow t;he
same 
everywhere, and may not mildew as often or much elsewhere. 
Depends on where t;hese people are. Greenhouse roses are 
under controlled atmosphere, and maybe in a cooler climate than 
yours,  Leonidas will do better. Just tell that person to look out for 
mildew. It's so gorgeous maybe that person is willling to fight the 
mildew.       

Elizabeth (Illinois)
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Leonidas????   Everyone I've talked to out here said it was a rusty 
orange,  rather than that delicious tan -- so it just may not do well in 
California gardens.  I'd give it a try, but if it's got a tendency to 
mildew, it's not for us. :-(

Jeri (Calif)
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A number of people have suggested Leonidas, but that's a Greek 
name, not French.  I'm thinking it may be 'Cafe Ole?'  Not quite French 
either, but it does exhibit those colors.  At least mine did until it 
reverted back to Winter Magic.

Suzanne
Zone 5 (Illinois)
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