Well, George, you've got me there, too.. We've travelled the U.S. up and down and in between with our travel trailer -- and it was our observation that no camp ground existed which was not built right hy a rr grade crossing... I used to wake up and count the freight cars passing by -- which more often than not came to 100 . . . I have always loved the clickety-clack of the train wheels. It spelled adventure for me, and used to mean that I was on my way to visit my grandparents in Florida, back in the late 30's. There never was anything more exciting than spending a night in a sleeper car, and taking myself in all alone to the dining car. I was sent off to Chicago on a sleeper, too, in 1937, great experience. Remember the names..? The 20th Century Ltd., the Broadway Ltd..... Also took one back, returning at the end of the summer out in Montana, at which point I had NO money at all, and could not buy my dinner... The very friendly young man who shared the daytime seat with me invited me to join him in the dining car, but I politely said no.. At 17, I wasn't afraid of his ulterior motives, I just was embarrassed that I could not pay my own way, should it be necessary.. Covered about 3,000 miles inside China in a sleeper car, and boy! but it was cold! We all wore our bed blankets around our shoulders during the day, and finally were persuaded to share a big bottle of Mai Tai, their rather potent whisky. Drank it out of empty Kodak plastic film cans... And for comparison, I was on board the train up to Machu Picchu in Peru at about 12,000 ft, the whole thing done in switch-backs. Wonderful experience -- amof, the Great Wall in China and the Lost City on top of Machu Micchu were probably the two most exciting things to see in all my life. Of course, that was before the great tourist onslaught, so the effect was spell-binding. Penny, NY ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.