> I saw a similar message to this one from the 98 archives. My St Augustine > is dying in a ring that coincides exactly with the dripline of my live oak > trees. The trees have been there about 5 years. The grass is fine. I don't really know much about live oaks...but the most active feeder root system for white oaks coincides with the dripline. That's where we're supposed to fertilize them ... and that's where the most intense competition for resources would be. That area would receive the most sun to dry out plants, and it might make enough of a difference during droughts to cause trouble for your grass...resulting in a dead ring around the live oak tree. Barb in Southern Indiana Zone 5/6 dorsett@blueriver.net A root is a flower that disdains fame.