Re: [gardeners] Saturday in the garden (written a day later)

David G. Smith (
Mon, 3 Jul 2000 08:52:32 -0400

Rudbeckia hirta is Black-eyed Susan, but I think I've seen another botanical
name associated with it as well.

After three years I've given up on artichokes.  The plants barely make it
through the winter, and barely survive the heat in the summer.  I'm putting
them out of their misery!


----- Original Message -----
From: penny x stamm <>
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Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2000 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [gardeners] Saturday in the garden (written a day later)

> George, I'm a bit confused. And I am interested.
> Are you going to lay ceramic tiles in your new garage?
> Or is Sam going to tile his entire house?
> As for Jimmie's garden, it now contains two artichoke plants,
> 6 tomatoes which were given to us, two he-doesn't-know-which
> either string beans or snap peas, and two mammoth
> rudbeckias.  The artichoke is the love of our lives, for we live in
> zone 6 bordering on zone 5.5, and such frivolity has always been
> denied us before!  Of course yes, I do have a pineapple growing
> right in my shrubbery border, another phenomenon.  The
> rudbeckias are a complete mystery. I temporarily moved them out
> of the big flower bed into the veggie garden last April -- they were
> the only thing showing besides two gladioli which had survived
> the winter, and jim wanted to rototill.  Now I do not plant perennials.
> I only plant annuals. And even if i did plant perennials, I would never
> choose anything quite so huge as these things have become!  They
> have extra large Kodak-yellow flower petals with a dark brown
> center, on tall stalks.  Tell me, is a black-eyed Susan a rudbeckia...?
> Bottom line, cannot imagine where they came from!  I'm looking for
> a happy home for them.
> On Monday we are expecting a giant storm. Already 4 tractor-trailers
> have been overturned along the way...  Oh, dear --  we only got
> 36 plants in today, and have about 96 more to go. We'll never catch up,
> never.  And Jim has a garage full of seed which he will never get in
> the ground, either. What a strange summer this will  turn out to be!
> Penny, NY
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