Penny, I have these rudbeckia. I have to warn you they will not go away easily. I planted a single small pot in a corner of one rather large bed. They got to tall and kept falling into the pool. They were moved to another area, but came back in the first bed! I have now moved them from that bed 3 years running, going as far as to sift the soil for any remaining pieces of root. Guess what is out there now? I do not let them go to seed, I have sprayed them with herbicide, I have dug every little bit I can continually, they are still there and blooming! The things send up a bloom stalk along with the first leaves now. The bed I moved them to? It is being over run by rudbeckia. After two years the plant is 5 ft across and growing. I try to dig out half of it each spring to keep it from taking out everything around it. Funny thing is, I give these diggings to friends and none of them have survived the move. So I guess they will stay friends. Anne in FL zone 9b, sunset 26 I'd rather be gardening ----- Original Message ----- From: "penny x stamm" <pennyx1@Juno.com> To: <gardeners@globalgarden.com> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2000 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [gardeners] Saturday in the garden (written a day later) > George, I'm a bit confused. And I am interested. > > Are you going to lay ceramic tiles in your new garage? > Or is Sam going to tile his entire house? > > As for Jimmie's garden, it now contains two artichoke plants, > 6 tomatoes which were given to us, two he-doesn't-know-which > either string beans or snap peas, and two mammoth > rudbeckias. The artichoke is the love of our lives, for we live in > zone 6 bordering on zone 5.5, and such frivolity has always been > denied us before! Of course yes, I do have a pineapple growing > right in my shrubbery border, another phenomenon. The > rudbeckias are a complete mystery. I temporarily moved them out > of the big flower bed into the veggie garden last April -- they were > the only thing showing besides two gladioli which had survived > the winter, and jim wanted to rototill. Now I do not plant perennials. > I only plant annuals. And even if i did plant perennials, I would never > choose anything quite so huge as these things have become! They > have extra large Kodak-yellow flower petals with a dark brown > center, on tall stalks. Tell me, is a black-eyed Susan a rudbeckia...? > Bottom line, cannot imagine where they came from! I'm looking for > a happy home for them. > > On Monday we are expecting a giant storm. Already 4 tractor-trailers > have been overturned along the way... Oh, dear -- we only got > 36 plants in today, and have about 96 more to go. We'll never catch up, > never. And Jim has a garage full of seed which he will never get in > the ground, either. What a strange summer this will turn out to be! > > Penny, NY > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. >