George, my insurance would not pay for the 'act of nature' which tore that big limb off my neighbor's tree. Neither would their insurance. WE Paid. Bummer .... I was at a regional Master Gardener meeting today in which the conversation suddenly move over to wild turkeys -- the folks with me said that many of them were also having invasions of the big birds! BTW, these birds looked larger than turkeys to me. And I suspect that they were not full grown. Who knows...? I couldn't think of what organization to call to make inquiry, so I thank you for your suggestion about the Fish and Wildlife folks. Of course! We were about 150 M.G.s at the meeting which was held at a magnificent old mansion that had been donated to the State about 5 years ago. As we approached, my daughter remarked that the house itself was great, but that bank of 100 year old PERFECT rododendrons was hiding part of it, and should be cut back. She, of course, is into grand old houses while everyone else at the meeting was into horticulture. I told her that our own Master Gardeners had re-established all the gardens, had re-stocked the greenhouse and was growing hundreds of flowers for the beds, had been pruning the trees (I got my real tree pruning practice right there!), and had turned a neglected estate into a public attraction. To add to that, the approach to the house is by road cut through an enormous lawn which was surounded by hundreds of trees at their absolute peak of fall folliage. It was something to see, altogether.... Penny, NY ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.