Agreed! I never had much use for lemon pepper, would use it when I was at a loss for something to add to a dry rub. Hubby, though decided it was worse than useless and actually tossed the container out. For lemon, I have a Ponderosa lemon in the greenhouse, and the football sized fruit are too dry to juice but the rind is where the commercial canners get candied citron, very nice to grate over dishes that need lemony taste. Also, lemongrass growing like a weed, can be chunked up and stirred up into a sauce at the last minute for a lighter lemon. At the 'pepper end' of the lemon pepper discussion, I like coarse black Malabar pepper and have recently fallen for green peppercorns. Wish they weren't so expensive though. We have a few slippery elm/ash (I never can remember) trees (aka tickletongue) and I've read that the fall berries are sometimes dried and used in place of peppercorns. Has anyone done this one? Lon? In a cooking column a LONG time ago (Houston Chronicle in the 1960's) I read that black pepper can't be digested. This was from Chef Louis Szathmeyer? (Translvanian chef!) and it's one of those things that stay with you, right or wrong!! Martha, (Texas) Visit our Paso Fino Club: www.TxPFHA.org Visit our farm:www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/5505/index.html