I'm in Davis and often in Santa Clara. Santa Clara isn't quite as hot in summer nor as cold in winter, but it's a lot smoggier. The soil in both is pretty heavy. Davis has "Yolo fine sandy loam" and Santa Clara has adobe clay, but they feel pretty much the same when you're trying to work with them. Alamo's roughly halfway between the two, I think. What's your native soil like, before amending? I drive along that corridor every week, lamenting the loss of beautiful fields to new housing developments. Sherryl At 12:26 AM 08/02/2001 -0400, Mary-Anne wrote: > >Where are you? I am also 9b in Alamo after Sherryl wrote >><< Northern California, USDA zone 9b >> >