Margaret, I've had no success with either milk or baking soda on the roses. I got so mad at the black spot that I cut the entire rose bed down to 12 inches on July 20th. It took many weeks for a sign of life to come back, but when it did, they all burst into leaf. As of August 20th, they are all in bloom, and with healthy foliage. Too good to be true ..... I do notice that the blooms are not as large as the first ones in June. Penny, NY . ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.