Dan, I'm growing old. I meant to call the dahlia problem a fungus. These dahlias have never needed a preventive spray before this summer. It looks as if i will have to consider this seriously, for next summer. I have not seen signs of fungus -- the leaves quickly turn brown, get very dry, and cling to the stalks. AMOF, I have had the same problem for several years with my clematis -- starting from the ground, the leaves quickly turn brown, get very dry, and cling to the vines. I was told that it is an airborne virus, and cannot be stopped.... The tops of the vines still are green and producing flowers, just like the dahlias ..... Penny, NY . ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.