Billie, I have a Nellie Moser Clematis growing on my arbor in similar sun conditions as yours. It seems to handle the part shade conditions just fine. It covers one side and most of the top of the arbor. -Doug -Boulder County, CO -------Original Message------- From: Billie <mzdc@mindspring.com> Sent: 04/18/03 10:57 AM To: gardeners@globalgarden.com Subject: [gardeners] need some ideas > > Hi, all... I'm thrilled to hear the list will go on and that George will still be with us as a posting member - don't know how I'd do w/o your life is good posts, George! :) I need some ideas for something to plant in a couple spots in our garden. First, our front gate has an arbor over it and I would like something that is pretty and grows fast. I planted peace roses on both sides last year in hopes that they would eventually meet in the middle - one died and the other one is healthy and growing but soooo slowly. The arbor gets full sun about half the day and filtered sun the rest. I also have an arbor on the other side of the yard - it gets very filtered light - anything I can plant their that will climb and bloom? I tried a climbing hydrangea but it didn't do well there. Otherwise, the fruit trees are looking great, raspberries and blueberries are putting out leaves, the Chinese wisteria along the fence is slow to come out but seems to be waking up finally, and the azaleas are in full bloom. We also have a blackberry crisis in our biggest bed - made the mistake of letting a blackberry bush grow along the fence last year and now shoots are coming up all over the entire bed! The echinacea along our sidewalk is coming up - if the dogs don't eat it all it will be the thickest yet. I'm leaving a lot of stuff out - but suffice it to say our yard is coming back to life faster than I can keep up with it! :) We're planting the veggie garden this weekend - got it hoed and ready this week. Am way behind on my to do list but will keep plugging away...:) billie -- billie hinton "A good traveller has no fixed plans and is not intent on arriving." Lao Tzu >