They moved us to zone 10! From 9! What are you crying about? It was 110 degrees here yesterday!!! ;) Chat with you later, Alan -- Chandler, Arizona Sunset Zone: 13 http://www.GardenersCorner.com ----- Alan Zelhart gizmoaz@cox.net Gardens Co-listowner http://www.gardenerscorner.com/notes.html ----- Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. -----Original Message----- From: Terry [mailto:taeking@endlesshealth.com] Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 7:27 AM To: gardeners@globalgarden.com Subject: RE: [gardeners] New hardiness zones -- get the fan Egad! They've moved me to zone 6! They used to have me in zone 5 and I've always had to move down to zone 4 when buying plants to get them to survive. Granted, we haven't had a zone 4 winter for several years and this past winter our low was the lowest it has been since this drought started, only down to -11. I wonder if they have based this map only on the past 4 or 5 year's weather? Terry -----Original Message----- From: owner-gardeners@globalgarden.com [mailto:owner-gardeners@globalgarden.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Lauterbach Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 12:43 PM To: gardens@lsv.uky.edu Subject: [gardeners] New hardiness zones -- get the fan Bring out the fans. The USDA has decided we're all several degrees warmer than we thought we were. Two months ago, I was in zone 6, now I'm in zone 7, having not moved an inch. They've dropped the a and b parts of the zones. I don't know whether the USDA checked with their boss about this warmer situation (didn't he deny the globe was warmer?), but they have also dropped Canada and Mexico as part of the zone map. See it at www.ahs.org . Margaret L