Doreen wrote: Then I called Carolyn to praise her efforts and bitch about the fact she didn't include enough of my passionate favorites--black Russian heirlooms. --------- She's included one of my personal favorite--Black from Tula. It's always my most productive (and best tasting) black, producing a good crop in both Atlanta and the Texas Hill Country. Some New England and Pacific Northwest growers are trialing it with me this year; I'm curious to see how it stacks up when grown under coolish summer conditions. It won't develop as much of the 'black' color; but it should be an interesting comparison. Catharine/Atlanta, zone 7b