Well, my Fatalis finally ripened. Beautiful little suckers they are, too, all brilliant gold, crinkly, and pointed. I had to keep the first one just to marvel at for a while - couldn't bear to cut into it to taste it! I wonder if they might be a bit frost-tolerant, considering how much later they performed than all the rest of the peppers in my garden. Anyway, I finally broke down and tasted one today. The aroma was very hab-like, except more so, but its fruitiness didn't seem to carry over into the taste. The heat took a second or two to deliver its full impact, which seemed to be less than that of your average hab. I ended up using a couple of them to make the Red Savina hot sauce recipe, which was just recently posted to the list. And there you have it.... Alex Alexandra Soltow pamra@rockland.net <*><*><*><*><*><*> Remember that not getting what you want is sometimes a stroke of luck.