>> >Well, Cheryl, what else is good about the souf is George, Liz and >Catharine. I know that. And what's more, I'm sure they know that. But we mustn't encourage them lest they really think the south will rise again. :-) Every time I hear one of them "speak" I feel like a damn yankee. :-)) >But apart from that, if you'll pop for seeds for that Bright >Lights chard, build yourself a raised bed and a hoop and plastic cover, a >la a Conestoga wagon, I'll bet you'd have greens all winter too. Margaret I'll spring for that chard next season but I've got 21 raised beds, and the hoops, and the plastic. Even have a little greenhouse. My problem is bad timing, poor organization, too many committees and manfacturing a product. Can't blame anyone else. Cheryl Schaefer schaefer @epix.net Zone 5 in the fabulous Finger Lakes of NY