Allen, so sorry to hear that your back is acting up again.. Is it the weather, or too much activity after a slow winter? They don't want to operate..? I thought I remembered that you had had a very bad fall, but I don't know what plans you had for rehab. Best of luck with the spring planting, in spite of the problem. BTW, our neighborhood usually does not get flooded from melting snow. We're at least 6 feet higher than the Atlantic Ocean, at our doorsteps... Only problem here is from a hidden underground leader put in by the builder some 48 years ago. It's been known to back up and send water over the 8" doorsill into the workshop. Now THAT spells trouble~! Penny, NY zone 6 ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]