On Thu, 18 Mar 1999 10:31:37 -0800 (PST), Kay Lancaster wrote: >On Thu, 18 Mar 1999, George Shirley wrote: > >> Don't have any idea what quack grass is but it sounds worse than Johnson >> grass. > >Well, it's shorter, but same rhizomatous mess underground. But >johnsongrass occasionally catches one of the smut fungi and that >slows it down considerably. I've never seen a sick quackgrass. >One of the very worst agricultural weeds in the upper midwest before >the advent of herbicides. > >Kay Lancaster kay@fern.com In CA Johnson grass was never as much of a problem as quackgrass is here in the PNW. I've had it over run manure piles and in digging it out have found runners over 10' long straight through the middle of the piles. It grows deep and persistent and is the bain of my flower beds too. Isn't Cyndi whose tagline sometimes reads something about quackgrass holding the world together? Terry King North Central Eastern Washington taeking@televar.com USDA zone 4, Sunset Zone 1 http://skybusiness.com/terraconnect/index.html