Hi, Allen, We had a very non-traditional 4th. Drove out to New Jersey to the cousins on the 3rd, trembling with negative anticipation about bar-b-quing in the back yard at 97 degrees with 100% humidity -- but they took pity on us (note the white hair, what there is of it <g>) and kept us indoors with fans. Not exactly paradise, but at least bearable. They served grilled chicken breasts, rice pilaf, cole slaw, and grilled green & red peppers, with daiqueries and daiqueries -- I don't really know how I stayed awake! Cheese cake & coffee, and that was it. This being the N'Orleans branch of the family, I rebelled and demanded hey, where are the baked beans? The pickles? No spare ribs...???? Cousin offered to pull the hot dawgs out of the freezer, but no, that wouldn't have done the job... Driving home by 9:00pm, we found our exit on the parkway gridlocked with a massive accident caused by rubbernecking at the local fireworks. Jimmie grasped the situation instantly, and drove down the side strip of the road to escape -- but there were already so many police roadblocks there that we could not even reach our own house! By the time we got inside, the TV said the cars were backed up for 15 miles... Sunday, Jimmie requested a special dinner: calf's liver, bacon & fried onions, mashed potatoes and spinach, with a Lillian Russell for dessert. The weather had not changed one degree, so there was no use arguing about bar-b-que. Big disappointment. Tonight we're still in trouble -- last time I looked at the thermometer (4:00pm) it read 110 in the shade. OK, so we will celebrate with curried chicken, rice, peas, salad, and honey dew melon. And then I'll make my 4th foray out into the yard for the day to hand water those shrubs which had only been planted 3 weeks ago... The only crop in the veggie garden which has survived the prolonged heat wave is onions .... walking, yellow, garlic chives --- they have soaker hoses. So here I sit reading about your bar-b-que and sob.. The 4th is supposed to be a certain image, and I am unfufilled. My son up in the Finger Lakes of New York promises to make up for it for us, next week.... Corn on the cob is not in yet, around here. Whatcha gonna do...? But would you please tell me how you slow cook a brisket over a bed of coals? How do you prepare it? How large is it? How long do you cook it? Maybe I can try fixin' it in November -- I'm not kidding! We bar-b-que all winter, even in the snow or rain. Jimmie sticks the beach umbrella in the pipe in the middle of the driveway which is meant for the tether ball, pulls out a beach chair, turns on his little radio, and tends to the fire. Great uplift, even if he looks funny sitting there in his mackinaw with a big wool scarf around his throat.... Penny, NY zone Hades ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.