They should have given you masochist pills, Penny. I agree that kind of treatment is insane. I've been subjected to some treatment that should have been preceded by masochist pills too, and I've told them no more. Forget it. Get lost. Several years ago there was a "psychiatrist" in Boise I thought was a quack the first time he held a public forum. He was licensed in the state, with other shrinks testifying in his behalf, and before it was all over they were beginning to think he was a quack too. I think he had forged credentials, on top of everything else. But he "rolfed" patients, palm pinching the insides of their legs so they were black and blue. Sheesh! Margaret L At 02:14 AM 4/8/2000 -0400, you wrote: >Allen, a few years ago I also had "deep massage" on the >doctor's orders, which consisted of the therapist digging her >elbow into my sore spots as hard as she could manage. I >think she called it "Swedish massage". > >I got so black and blue that the doctor pulled me out of there! > >The theory was that if someone could cause a temporary >intense pain at a sore spot, then the pain would be eliminated >permanently. I think they're insane...... > >How many of these punishing visits will you have to make? >And by now, at this hour, have you felt some relief you could >say came from the massaging..? > >No matter what, you know we wish you well. > >Penny, NY >