George, I don't exactly know how many goats... at this very moment. 2 bucks, 4 does currently in milk, 2 others in various stages of trying to dry them off. 3 yearling does, 8 doe kids, 2001 version. 1 geriatric (17 yr old grandma) These are all Oberhasli, I've had them since '83. Keep saying I need to get out but like an addict, I keep on with them. But, as soon as I can convince them to slack off, I turn the milkers to once a day milking at which point I'll milk them till they decide to go dry. (Some will milk through 2 years or better, obviously I don't rebreed them often.) If you ever want to part with that separator, let me know. The Pasos: I traded a llama for a pregnant Arabian about 2 summers ago (and I'd traded a Hawkheaded Parrot for the llama <G>). In Feb 2000 she (Arab) presented us with a Pinto filly! In the interim, I'd bought a (pregnant) Paso Fino who has also had a filly foal. The Arab was rebred to a Paso and I now have a 1/2 blood filly from her this season also. I bought one other mare (that I actually ride) and we have a foundered mare we're rehabbing. Both Pasos. So that makes 7 mares and fillies. I'll ask my paso breeding friends about your Uncle, they may remember him. I got tired of what I called the '2 bra ride', so I decided to start riding something with a smooth gait. (And there really is a difference!) To make this garden related, even if I decided to quit with the milkers, I'd still want to keep goats because of their weed control efforts. There are a lot of things they won't eat but they sure do a great job on poison ivy, brambles, and bushes in the field. (would also do a great job on my garden, roses, and ornamentals if they could, too.) For that reason, I don't like to plant anything that might be poisonous or toxic in any way. You'd be surprised at the things that are toxic. Martha, (Texas) Visit our Paso Fino Club: www.TxPFHA.org Visit our farm:www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/5505/index.html