Rosemary, we can get the Byblos Brand of lebni here in town. Ron is right: one can stand a knife up in it! I would not say that it is more sour, but it does have more flavor, even though there is no flavoring agent added to it. Delicious! This is the yogurt which is served in Ethiopia and Crete. Ethiopean food is so extraordinarily HOT that they need something cool and soothing to ease the pain .....<g>..... I would recommend that you follow Ron's lead and check out the Internet for Sadaf Brand food products, if you are interested. The Indians use yogurt for their Tandoori Chicken marinade (along with a bunch of spices and some lemon juice). The Greeks use it for making Tzadziki which is their Gyro sauce. The Russians use it for their borscht (cold and hot) and beef Strogonoff, to name just a few you might recognize. It's a wonderful product! ..................... My two clematis have grown fresh leaves all along their 6 ft high old stems, but are not in bloom yet. Intertwined with them is a yellow climbing rose which I planted one year ago and which has four canes about 12 ft long -- and is in bloom! The rose itself is very yellow and has very few petals; the buds are gorgeous, being mostly red with some yellow. The doggone thing is growing all over the banisters and the upright columns of the porch! Penny, NY zone 6 . ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.