I saw this post after I had responded to the original post. I am fascinated. What kind of plastic cups did you use. Did you go down to the local store and buy some red plastic drink cups? Somewhat on this same topic, the farmer I mentioned who uses red plastic for tomatoes uses silver plastic mulch for eggplant (even though they are in the same family). He says it does a better job at keeping off aphids, but I wonder if there is something else going on. Bill M >From owner-tomato@GlobalGarden.com Sat Feb 20 12:33:24 1999 >Received: from [209.66.116.20] by hotmail.com (1.1) with SMTP id MHotMailB8986714207FFD101708CD142741404390; Sat Feb 20 12:33:24 1999 >Received: (from majordomo@localhost) > by webhosts.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA17714 > for tomato-list; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 12:24:09 -0800 >Received: from VOLTAIRE.stic.net (mail.stic.net [204.57.118.5]) > by webhosts.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA17703 > for <Tomato@GlobalGarden.com>; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 12:24:04 -0800 >Received: from stic.net ([166.130.0.73]) by VOLTAIRE.stic.net > (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58944U14500L10000S0V35) > with ESMTP id net for <Tomato@GlobalGarden.com>; > Sat, 20 Feb 1999 14:24:00 -0600 >Message-ID: <36CF1A0B.CD4C644B@stic.net> >Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 14:24:43 -0600 >From: John and Jan Taylor <jtaylor@stic.net> >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: Tomato@GlobalGarden.com >Subject: Re: [tomato] Red plastic mulch >References: <199902201647.IAA19943@mail.greatbasin.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Sender: owner-tomato@GlobalGarden.com >Precedence: bulk >Reply-To: Tomato@GlobalGarden.com > >Oddly enough, this year I have started a variety of tomatoes in red >plastic cups and the difference in those and the ones started in 1" >packs (the little plastic 1" square x 9 "holes" per pack...common seed >starter pack..) are great. > >Here is what is planted where... > >Before contacting Chuck and deciding to do Heirlooms this year, I had >started some hybrid beefsteak tomatoes in the plastic packs. > >I started all the heirlooms in red plastic cups....(I had run out of the >packs, and wanted to label the red plastic cups to know which heirloom >plant was which)... > >I started the hybrids a full 3 weeks before the heirlooms. The hybrids >are just now peeking their heads up good....the heirlooms are already >putting on 2nd and 3rd leaves. > >It could of course be the difference in hybrids and heirlooms, but with >identical soil conditions, identical lighting conditions, I thought >there might really be a difference in the container. > >Would like to know more about the discussion on the 'red reflective >light' you mentioned... > >Note on how I am doing the red plastic cups...I am filling them 3/4 of >the way with a loose 'starter' soil.....and cutting slits on the bottom >on two sides with my scissors for drainage...all of this sits on >shelving w/grow light source.... > >Looking forward to this discussion.... > >Jan Taylor > > > >> We have a nursery specializing in perennials, mostly daylilies and >> belong to a daylily mailing list. Yesterday a hybridizer mentioned >> that his daylily seedlings were three times larger when started in >> red plastic cups versus white insulated cups. This led to a >> discussion on reflected red light. >> >> Dave Anderson >> Tough Love Chile Co. >> http://www.tough-love.com >> e-mail Chilehead@tough-love.com > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com