Allen wrote: > I have attempted to open doors for several flamming femanists > who resented it and told me so in very clear terms that I was demeaning them and > implying that they couldn't make their way in the world without a mans help. I > appoligised for the offense. These females are/were hiding behind "feminism" as an excuse for unforgivably bad manners. You owed them no apology; that you offered one shows that your Great Grandmother did a fine job rearing you. Catharine